Thursday, April 16, 2009

Chapter Eight: Voices of the past

1. Whose voices do you think Elie Wiesel remembers the most from the time when his father was dying? Why?

2. If it had been you, whose voice would haunt you the most? Why?

32 comments:

  1. 1.In my opinion Elie Wiesel remembers the most from the time when his father was dying was his own voice.He wanted to save his father because he was suppose to look out for his father. This was his only family member left after he got separated from his mother & sisters.He kept reminding himself that he couldn't let his father die like this.He did every possible thing to save his father but at last he failed.
    2.The voice that would haunt me the most is the head of the block. He told me I didn't have the strength to save my father and the doctor doesn't either.He told me to save my own life because i been giving him my food and i will become weaken like that.I should listen to him because maybe my father wont die like this. The other sick people saw me give pity on my father and injured him more for that piece of bread.I did the best I can to save my father's life but i failed. I don't think his voice will haunt me because I stood by his side unlike Rabbi Eliahous son.

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  2. 1. The voice that Elie remembers the most is Rabbi Eliahou's son's voice. He remembers his voice because he starts acting like him. When his father was dying, Elie went to look for him. As he was going a thought came to his head telling him "'dont let me find him! If only i could get rid of this dead weight, so that i could use all my strenghth to struggle for my own survival, and only worry about myself'"(p.101). When this thought came to his mind, he knew felt ashamed because he once asked God not to make him be like Rabbi Eliahou's son.

    2. If i was in Elie's place, the voice that would haunt me the most would be the old man that was on the wagon and who had bread in his shirt on page 96. This old man was eating the bread, when his son Meir came and attacked him for the bread. His voice would haunt me because it showed how he was trying to stop his son and yet his son just cares about survival and would attack his father for bread.

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  3. 1. The voice that Elie remember the most during the time when his father was dying was his own and the Rabbi‘s son, who left his father. It was his voice that he listen to the most and he was following it. The Rabbi’s son voice was important as well because, Elie kept thinking of what the son did to his father and Elie tried not to do the same, “No better than Rabbi’s Eliahou’s son had withstood the test” (Wiesel 102).
    2.It were me, the voice that would had hunted me the most would be instinct, the voice that telling me that I need to take care of myself and not worry about anyone else. That would had hunted me because I don’t want to be selfish to the one who had helped me though it all.

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  4. 1). The voices that Elie remembers from his dads death is his dad and the Blockalteste. Elie remembers the words that the Blockaleste told him. He told Elie to forget about his dad that in a concentration camp there was no such thing as family or friends. The only person Elie should worry about was himself in order for him to live. He told him to take his dads food for himself in order to stay strong. Elie considered this but he felt guilty after because he had thought about hurting his dad. His dad voice will also be in Elie's mind because he tried calling for help but Elie couldn't do anything for him He went to the doctor in order to get help for his dad but he told him that he couldn't do anything. Elie couldn't do anything to help his father, he could only sit and watch.2).The voice that would haunt me the most would be the Blockalteste. He told me to look after myself and forget about my father. He told me there was no such thing as friends or family and the only person that mattered was myself. For a second I agreed with him I thought about stealing his food in order to keep myself healthy. This voice will always haunt me because in my dads time of need I thought about betraying him for my own benefit.

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  5. Spyro Fletouris

    The voice that Ellie remembers the most while his father was dieing was the Rabbi's son. Ellie always asked himself what the son did to his father and he tried to do the same. The rabbi's son was Ellie's inspiration to being free of his father. This was the voice that Ellie remembered the most.
    The voice that would haunt me the most would be temptation. The voice would tell me to give up everything I know and just die. The little voice would say to leave my father behind and continue without him. If i was in Ellie's position temptation would say that I was free from family and suffering.

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  6. Elie remember his father’s voice them most. Elie mentions that his father is acting like a child and Elie would care for him as much as possible. Elie’s father complains about things and Elie would do anything to satisfy Chlomo’s need. Elie remember Chlomo’s voice them sot because he is the only relative he have left.
    If it is me, the voice that would haunt me the most is also relatives that I have left. They are the only ones that I have left and they are my family. I would care about their voices more than others because others aren’t as important as my family.

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  7. 1.) The voice that i think Elie Wiesel remembers the most from the time when his father was dying is his own and his fathers'. He remembers his own voice because he knew he would not give up and he became complacent throught the book. Also, he remembers his fathers' voice because if it was not for him he would not be the person he became.

    2.)If it had been me, the voice that would have haunt me the most would be Elie. This is because Elie became a better person to his father and other Jews. He became complacent and he never gave up. he tried and tried to survive and help support his father from dying.

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  8. 1. I believe the voice Elie Wiesel remembers the most during the time his father was dying was his own. I not only think this because it was his voice, so he must remember what he was thinking at the time, but also because of the thoughts he had. The one thought he had about getting rid of his father because he was a burden must have stung him so much in the end (Wiesel 101). This thought must resonate in his mind because it was so mean and disrespectful and because he is able to make the connection to the Rabbi and his son.

    2. If it would have been me the voice that would have haunted me the most is my own. If I would have thought the things Elie did, in the end I would have been upset with myself. I would have been mad that I had such thoughts and I would have been even more upset because in the end the “burden” did go away, but it was at the expense of death. It also would have been my own because I would not have gotten to see my father buried or taken away. I would haunt me because I never got to apologize or to say goodbye.

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  9. 1. I think the voice Elie remembers the most when his father was dying was his own. His father's last words before he died was Elie's name. Deep down inside of Elie's heart, he knew he was free at last after his father had died. He felt like he was being released from a burden that his father was putting on him the whole time he was alive. He knew it was good that his father had died but he refused to let his thoughts surface and he didn't want to think like that.

    2. If it was me, i think my father's voice would of haunt me the most. His last words were my name and yet I had refused to listen to his pleading. I think it'll haunt me forever if i didn't do something to help him and i would feel regret. I think my own voice would of haunt me also, because i had actually thought of thinking that my father's death is the best for me. It would be a selfish and heartless thing to think of.

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  10. 1. Elie Wiesel remembered his father’s voice the most when his father was dying. His father told him where he hide the gold and valuables in the cellar of their home before, his father continuously asked for water, and before Elie never see his father again, the night before, his father keeps on calling his name. So, Elie would forever remember many of the words his father said to him before his father died, or be taken away.

    2. If I was Elie, the voice that haunts me the most would be Elie’s father’s voice. He kept repeating Elie’s name over and over again. It is because if I was Elie, I would love my father deeply, and the thought of every abandoning him would haunt for forever in life.

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  11. 1. I think that while Elies father was dying, he heard his father voice the most. Elie would listen to everything his father told him. He would bring his father soup, water, and coffee whenever his father wanted even though Elie knew water wasnt good for him. Elie wanted to do whatever his father asked hoping that it would make him better.

    2. If this was me, my fathers voive would also be haunting me. Knowing that I had been through and survived so much with my father, and then seeing him in the bad condidtion that he was in. I would have listened to my father just like Elie did even though it didnt help in the end.

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  12. 1. When Elie's father was dieing, the voice that he probably heard the most would be his father. Elie would always stay by his father's side, he wanted to make sure that they were safe. His father had told him where the gold and other valuables were at the house, because he knew he would not make it. When his father was dieing, he wanted water but it wasn't good for him. Elie went anyways and got him a glass of water. Elie didn't want to see him suffer and die in that kind of way.
    2. If I was in this situation the voice that would haunt me the most would be my fathers. This is because, as my father was dieing, I felt that I could have done more to help him but i didn't. I just let him die like that. These thoughts in my head would haunt me forever because I knew that I could have done something to make him feel better.

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  13. I think that the voice that Elie Wiesel heard the most when his father was dying was his father’s. He would remember his father being weak and him bring him stuff to help him get better and giving up his rations of food for him. He also might remember the head of the block. He told him that everyone at the camp had to worry about themselves and fight against each other in order to survive. He also mentioned that there was no family or friends at the camp so he should forget about his father. I think he would remember this because it was a moment where he had to choose what to do. He could have left his father to die without him helping him and giving up his rations but he wanted his father to become better so he did his best to help. Towards the end Elie just wanted that if his father was to die for him to be at least happy so he didn’t listen to the head of the block.

    In this position my father’s voice would haunt me the most. I would hear him calling out my name. Also the fact that I left abandoned him at one point even though I found still would haunt me. It would haunt me that when I was sleeping I couldn’t respond to my father and when I woke up he was gone.

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  14. 1) Elie remembers the Rabbi's son's voice the most because he can't let go of his father and he feels angry and ashamed that he would think of just abandoning him, but at the end I think it helps Elie let go of his father, for he remains silent even though he's really angry.

    2) If it was me, I think my own voice would haunt me for questioning God. Being able to muster any faith would help him let his father go and ascend to the next life.

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  15. 1. The voice that Elie Wiesel remembers the most from when his father was dying is his own voice. Elie really wanted his father to stay alive but he also wanted to survive. Elie’s father was all he had left and seeing his father dying brought different thoughts to his head. He knew it had been too late for his father to survive and he started thinking like Rabbi Eliahou’s son who just saw his father as a dead weight (Wiesel 101). Elie needed to worry about his own well being instead of his fathers and he knew this. Elie Wiesel remembers his own voice the most because he can remember his thoughts from when his father was dying and how he felt through it all.

    2. If I was in Elie Wiesel’s position the voice that would have haunted me the most would have also been my own. I would be haunted by my own voice because it would hurt me to remember that I actually wanted my father to die so that I could just focus on myself. I would feel selfish for thinking that my father was a dead weight. I would feel ashamed that part of me wanted him to just die so that I wouldn’t have to care for him anymore and that I could survive. My father is what kept me alive throughout the whole journey and to watch him die and to remember thinking that I wanted him to so that I could survive would haunt me for the rest of my life.

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  16. The voice that Elie Wiesel remembers the most from the time when his father was dying is a combination of two voices bringing him confusion. These two voices are the Rabbis and the head of the block. The Rabbis voice told him to not leave his father and to stay by him supporting him throughout the way. For example Elie would often times give him water to help him. But the Head of the Camps voice told him to leave him alone as Elie said, "He was right." (Wiesel 105). His dad quickly noticed as Elie was debating between the two voices as he later brought him water. This confusion made him feel somewhat guilty as he later said, "His last word was my name." (Wiesel 106). In turn the confusion from both voices caused Elie to be haunted by his fathers voice.

    The voice that would haunt me the most would be my fathers. Throughout the last moments all he asked for was for help and I was incapable of giving him or helping him survive. There was nothing to be done. Without my father I would not of made it this far. Although i know if I would have died instead of him he would also feel the same pain, I feel it more because thoughts often entered my head of leaving and and betraying him. Now who can i look for to support me? Just the memories and the voice of my father that will haunt me far more than any other person who influenced my decisions.

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  17. 1. Whose voices do you think Elie Wiesel remembers the most from the time when his father was dying? Why?

    I think Elie will remember his own voice the most from the time his father was dying. He wanted his father to stay alive as well as himself. But he was no better than the Rabbi's son. He wanted to be free from his father which who was seen as a burden. He will forever remember his thoughts during his fathers death because they will haunt him and bring remorse and regret.

    2. If it had been you, whose voice would haunt you the most? Why?

    My own voice would haunt me the most because it showed the evil inside me. It showed how ugly and disgusting I was on the inside. Most of all it showed me that I was no different from the others as I wish I would've been. I would live with remorse, regret, and self-hatred forever.

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  18. --DENISE SHU

    1. The voice I think Elie Wiesel remembers the most from the time when his father was dying was his own voice. Elie didn't want his father to die, but he also didn't want to be kept down. He wanted to survive on this camp on his own, without help from his father. Elie said there was a voice inside his head that said not to let himself find his father and he himself should use his own strength to survive on his own (101).

    2. If it was me, the head's voice would haunt me the most because it was him that told Elie that he should just let his father die. It was the head that told Elie just to eat his ration of bread and Elie listened to him. Elie listened to the head and didn't give his father some water when he asked and gave him some soup instead. I would feel guilty everytime I thoguht about what the head said.

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  19. Jason Grullon
    1.I believe the voice Elie Wiesel remembers the most during the time his father was dying was his own voice. I believe it is his voice because the thoughts were very descriptive. The thoughts developed throughout the book. The thought of him wanting to get rid of his father played an important role that constantly reminded him.

    2.If it would have been me the voice that would have haunted me the most is my father. My father was a well respected man in the community. I will be considering a burden to him so he worried about me more than himself. His death would be partly my fault.

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  20. 1. The voice that Elie remembers the most from the time when his father was dying was his own voice. Elie remembered his voice the most because he was struggling between should he keep helping his father, or should i help myself. This was since he was told by another man that Elie's father is dying anyway there is no reason to share any portion of food, instead Elie should take his share(105).

    2. If it was me the voice that would haunt me the most is the voice of my dying father. He was the strength that kept me going. He supported me when i needed someone to lean on in the beginning of the camp, without him i would have gave up in Elie's shoes. It was the father that kept Elie alive, Elie knew of nothing and it was the father that persuade him he must not fall, they must not separate(Chapter Seven). I would feel EXTREMELY guilty if i left my father there to die.

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  21. 1. I think the voices Elie Wiesel remembers the most from the time when his father was dying was his father's voice because his father was calling him and he didn't respond. Elie wasn't by his father's side when he died and when his father was constantly calling his name.

    2. If it had been me, the voice that would haunt me the most will be the father because he was keep calling out my name. Also, I would keep hearing his voice in my dreams. It would haunt me like crazy because the last few words of my father were my name which I didn't respond to.

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  22. 1. Elie Wiesel remembers the Blockateste ‘s voice the most because he was the one who told Eli, he nor the doctor could do anything for his father. He told him that instead of trying to save his father, he should let die and take his ration of bread and soup. Elie wondered whether or not he should be thinking of himself. However, he also thought about the Rabbi’s son who abandoned him. Elie was ashamed and did not want to do the same to his father.
    2. If it had been me, the father’s voice would have haunted me the most only because it should have been the only voice that mattered. I would constantly hear my father’s cry and suffering knowing that I could have left him to die. The fact that Elie could only do so much for his father would have haunted me the most.

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  23. Stephanie Almanzar

    1. Elie must mostly remember his father's voice, his own voice, and the doctor's voice. Every time his father would cry out that his time was up Elie would try to fight for him, it seemed to pain him to hear that his father was giving up. When Elie's father said his last word Elie's heart must've broke since it was his name, a cry for help that he didn't and couldn't respond to. Elie felt guilty but relieved that his father had died in crying out for "Eliezer". Elie felt guilty at hearing himself saying that his father was a burden and this must have stuck with him forever. These thought were mostly triggered by the doctor who had said that he should leave his father be and also take his food. Elie agreed.

    2. If it had been me, Elie's father's voice would've haunted me the most. Especially his last cry for help. This would have haunted me because i thought almost nothing of it, i rarely cared about my burden of a father who was dying.

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  24. Ahmed Atieh
    The voice that elie remembers the most is the rabbi’s son. After having prayed to never be like the rabbi’s son, elie becomes just like him. When looking for his father, elie hopes that he would not find his father so that way he wouldn’t have to look out for them both. He would only have to look out for himself. I think elie remembers this voice the most because he did not want to become like the rabbis son and he realizes that it had happened to him.
    If it were me, the voice that would haunt me would definitely be the Rabbi’s son. After having prayed to not be like him and hoping that it would never happen to me, it happens. I am filled with selfishness for my own survival. I could not imagine doing that to one of the people I love most.

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  25. Joseph Nagiub


    1)I think Elie Wiesel remembers his own voice the most as his father was dying because he's always going to think of the decisions he had to make to help his father stay alive. The choices to give him water and food instead for himself will always be remembered from Elie. His voice to help his father will always be remembered.

    2)IF it was me the voice that would've haunted me the most would be Elie's father. His voice of help and water will haunt my life and i wouldn't forget the day my dad dies.The cry of help from his father would never be forgotten.The thought of not doing all you can do to help your father would never be forgotten.

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  26. 1.The voices that Elie remembers from his dad’s death is the Blockaltestes. Elie was told that he should forget about his dad and should take care of himself. The Blockaltestes tells Elie that there is nothing that can be done for his father and that he should move on. He tells Elie that the food that his father gets should go to Elie because the father has no more use for it and that Elie needs the energy. These words will hunt Elie because upon the death of his father he felt relieved but then feels guilty for having thought that way.
    2.If it was me, I would probably hear the rabbi’s voice in my head. It would haunt me because I would think that my own father was thinking like him. Thinking that his son could be somewhere loking for him. I would feel decussated at myself for thinking like the rabbi’s son, even after praying to not turn like him. I would feel ashamed at myself because my father was always thinking of me like the rabbi was thinking for his son, and I become like the son who thought of only his own survival.

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  27. 1) The voices i believe Elie remembers the most were the voices of the people telling him his father wouldnt make it and that he should give up.It may make Elie believed that he strived to keep his father alive for no reason because his father kind of gave up on him.

    2)The voice that would haunt me the most were the voices of the father. The father guided Elie through mostly everything. Elie lived for that man and at one point the father kind of became Elie's child because he was his responsibility.

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  28. He remembers his own voice the most. Deep down inside he felt relieved , that he was free at last. He could tried to help his father but instead he stayed in the line petrified. He dint want to give his father water since he wanted it for himself. He was agreeing with the head of the block who was saying to leave his father and take all his food.

    If it was me , my fathers voice would haunt me. Seeing him beg me for some water would of killed me there on the spot. I would not be able to stand there while the SS officers repeatedly hit him.

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  29. 1.) The voice Elie remembers during his father death was the voice of the Blockalteste because he told Elie "Listen to me, kid. Don't forget your are in a concentration camp. In this place, it is every man for himself, and you cannot think of others.Not even your father.(P. 110) because he started to realize he couldn't always protect his father and had to let him go soon.
    2.)The voice that would haunt me would be the voice of Elie's father because he was an important man in Sighet and his finals word callign my name can be very haunting.

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  30. 1. Elie remembers the voices of those people who told him to forget about his father and the voices of those who let their fathers die. His mind was set for survival, morals no longer mattered it was every man for him self. Even so he was ashamed.
    2. If it was me, the voice that would haunt me is the voice of who I used to be. I no longer would be that person I once was. That person would haunt me telling me to not let go of that last part of family I had.

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  31. 1. Elie remembers the Rabbi's son's voice and how he left his father to die, he hears his own thoughts of what the son must have been thinking, about a burden being lifted, what Elie himself feels. During his father's death Elie hears the blockalteste's voice who tells him he should take his father's rations of bread as well. Elie does nothing to help his father. Elie feels guilty but his survival instincts become more important.
    2. If it were me it would be the man who asked for god when the killed the pipel because i would wonder if i had truly lost faith in god and if i had, then so did my father? I would wonder if my father would rest in peace, if there were a god to save his soul, or if that same god would deny him a place in paradise. It would haunt me to not know if my father would ever rest his eyes and escape his final memories of hell.

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  32. 1. From the time that Elie Wiesel remembers the most when his father was dying was the devil and the angel. The devil was probably telling him to keep the food to himself and not to give his father water because he had dysentery. His selfishness was probably being tempted by the devil. However he knew that that was his father who was dying and that he should help him, therefore having the angel have a say in this. However the main voice would have to be his own because he took his own decisions thinking about himself most of the time, because his decisions rely upon the choices he makes.
    2) If I were in Elie’s position, the voice that would haunt me the most would be my father’s voice. My father’s voice would haunt me for life because just remembering the word “help” and not doing much about it will bring my conscious in play. I would feel guilty not having to do the impossible to save him. Therefore my father’s voice would haunt me a lot.

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